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of the republican party, marco rubio and 0 paul ryan outlining their visions for the future of the gop. what it means and what it means for 2016 and beyond. what does former rick perry think about awful this. the texas governor here to talk about that and the possibility of his state going blue. nice to have you on set. he says it's not going to happen. we'll talk about it in a second. >> announcer: 'tis the season mo g out... and along with it, more identity theft.is holiday n is over, an estimated 1.2 million identities may be stolen. every time you pull out your wallet, shop online or hit the road, you give thieves a chance to ruin your holiday. by the time you're done watching this, as many as 40 more identities may be stolen. you can't be on the lookout 24/7, but lifelock can. they're relentless about protecting your identity every minute of every day. when someone tries to take over your bank accounts, drain the equity in your home, or even tries to buy a car in your name, lifelock is on guard. and with lifelock's 24/7 alerts, they contact you by text, phone or email as soon as they de
him doing this week exactly what you would do if you were thinking about it. we see marco rubio going out to iowa already. it seems like these people are getting themselves into place already. >> i'm sure marco rubio visited area many, many times before he was a united states senator. >> yeah. >> these people would tell you this isn't about a presidential race, but of course it is about taking the temperature there. there are a lot of republicans thinking about running in 2016. i think some of those decisions will be contingent on who's running. jeb bush is about as big a fish as you could find in the republican pond. there probably isn't enough room if for both him and marco rubio to run. paul ryan i think is a potential candidate in 2016 and then a number of others, bob mcdonald, the governor of virginia. if he finds something that's helpful to him to raise his profile. i think these guys are trying to get an idea of what the contributions would be like. what the field looks like. what kind of platform they could put together to appeal to the voters that mitt romney did not. obvious
for 2016. you have the jack kemp forum tonight and both marco rubio and paul ryan are speakers. >> right. marco rubio is honored tonight. paul ryan was the honoree last year. yes, andrea. these are two guys without question are going to be in that 2016 presidential race barring some sort of unforeseen circumstance. they're both positioning themselves to lead the party. i'm interested to see what they talk about, because i think both of them -- paul ryan is talking about poverty. marco rubio is talking about education so not two typical what we would traditional republican issues, taxes and those sorts of things. this is an attempt by both men, i think, and a chance for both men to expand on what it means to be a member of the republican party and to try to broaden an appeal we saw in the 2012 election is just not broad enough particularly among hispanics. they are problems with women and young people. rubio is 41 and ryan is 42 years old who are leading a youth movement that the party hopes will change that appeal, correct their demographic problems and it starts even though the election
. >> thank you very much. rahha, we appreciate it. so much attention on this, kate middleton. marco rubio and paul ryan reinventing themselves with speeches. and john mcafee wanted for questioning in the death of his neighbor. he has fled from belize. but tonight we actually know where he is and why he's there. everything has to be just right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster with pillsbury cookie dough. but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! thanks. a hybrid? most are just no fun to drive. now, here's one that will make you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. of washington about the future of medicare and social
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. james, pretty good. there is a party going on, jack kemp foundation is having a party and marco rubio is speaking. paul ryan is speaking. they both want to have complete makeovers. you know -- marco rubio doesn't want to be the hispanic guy who talks about immigration. and paul ryan doesn't want to be the grinch that stole medicare. paul ryan is standing there right now. what do you think? are these guys going to succeed? are they the future? >> if i was paul ryan, i would want to be something else. if i was selected vice president and i got slaughtered in my -- and my candidate got slaughtered in my home state, i would be looking to have a makeover also. i don't blame him. i think that senator rubio could run on anything he wants. i agree. if he wants to run on economic expertise, perceived economic expertise, it's a good thing for him to do it. he should do that. it's apparently what he believed before. if paul ryan wants to believe that the best thing to make a child study is a toothache, that's what he believed before. if he wants to change his mind, that's his business too. i don
paul ryan and senator marco rubio drop big hints at last night's dinner honoring jack kemp. >> you know any good diners in new hampshire or iowa, right? >> paul, thank you for your invitation for lunch in iowa and new hampshire, but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. ♪ >> and take five, to remember one of the greatest innovators jazz has known, composure dave brubeck, died a day short of his 92nd birthday. ♪ >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. we begin with the fallout from a senate vote that seemed to underscore everything that is wrong with capitol hill. the senate's rejection of an international treaty to guarantee equal rights for people with disabilities based on what has been american law since the first bush presidency 22 years ago. the treaty supported by every democrat and eight republicans, came five votes short of passage of the required 66 needed for ratification. 38 republicans voted no despite the return to the floor of former majority leader bob dole only days out of the hospital. there at the age of 89 to rally suppor
. marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and youth might come from arurubio or ryan on the republican side. >> clinton is a favorite among young people, especially young women. they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal post. but i want to say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in command, but also, we have governors. a lot of diversity. duval patrick and we can all look as governor cuomo, you have elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential. so i don't want to throw all our eggs in one basket because ther
nominee and marco rubio begin to lay out their visions for the future. >> the problems are the same. but the old ways won't do. we need new thinking and renews efforts from all americans. ♪ the weather outside is frightful ♪ ♪ but the fire is so delightful ♪ nothing melts away the cold like a hot, delicious bowl of chicken noodle soup from campbell's. ♪ let it snow, let it snow or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use. it's the ultimate combination of speed, small size, and low-cost printing. bill: two of the republican party's rising stars laying out their vision for the future. senator marco rubio explained why the battle to stop tax increases is so vital to the country. >> this isn't about a pledge or protecting millionaires or billionaires. to me it's that the tax increases he wants would fail to make a small dent in the debt but it will hurt small businesses and the
specialize in presidential politics. paul ryan has a lot of juice as the 2012 presidential. and marco rubio gave more than 70 speeches for romney over the last campaign year. last year both openly joked together about hitting the trail early in 2016, livin'. >> i will see you at the reunion. table for two. good diners in new hampshire or iowa? [ laughter ] >> paul, thank you four invitation for lunch in iowa and new hampshire. but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> marco rubio standing up for sowrk which votes third in the nominating process after iowa and new hampshire. the election was just a month ago. the president has not yet been reinaugurated and rubio has already actually been to iowa where he acknowledged all the talk about him running and actually joked that he will not be a candidate for coach at iowa state, harris. >> okay. i'm glad he cleared that up. carl. i understand they got very serious and talked about the future of the republic party. >> they did. and that also refers to their own political future as white house candidate. rubio he spo
. >> as the republicans digest mitt romney 2019 defeat, former running mate paul ryan and surrogate marco rubio the florida u.s. senator are openly joking about and already testing message for the 2016 g.o.p. race for the presidential nomination. >> see you at the reunion dinner, table for two. do you know any diners in iowa? >> thank you for your invitation in iowa and new hampshire. i will not stand by and watch people of south carolina ignored. >> rubio received the second annual jack kemp foundation award last night. ryan a kemp protege received the first award last year. ryan mentioned fighting poverty 15 times last year and distanced himself from the romney infamous remark of the 47% who don't pay federal income taxes. >> both parties tend to divide americans to our voters and their voters. let's be clear. republicans must steer far clear of that crap. >> rubio emphasizeed expanding the g.o.p. big tent and describing voters will determine the future of the country and the g.o.p. >> it all starts with our people. in the kitchen of our hotel and landscaping crews that work in the neighborho
. >> no, marco rubio, new messenger. neil: i want to thank you all. when we come back, grover, the guy who all the fuss is over. about after talking to me, it became front page news coast-to-coast, he is railing on republicans who are bailing on his no tax hike pledge. democrats to cut spending. norquist, next. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the mercedes-benz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional price. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer lease a 2013 glk350 for $399 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. >> his brand of extremism has been bad for congress and worse for the country. neil: why is ts extreme, to hold politicians account able for spending? anyway, be tt as it may, grover norquist has created a firestorm, now many argue, getting it thrown back at him. a number of republicans, a half dozen stronger abandoning their pledges. how are you doing? >> doing well. neil: does this bug you? i know you pretty well. the
speaker marco rubio, who was an anti-stimulus tea party candidate. mario rubio and his supporters wailed away on charlie crist for the hugging and for the stimulus. and it worked. crist dropped out rather than get wol lopped. he stayed in the race as an independent, but he got run over by rubio and rubio took the seat. that's how charlie crist got pergeed from the republican party. this was how his demise was explained. the hug that doomed crist's senate bid. charlie crist, you embraced the democrat. get out of the party, you are done. that's how the story has been told. maybe there's something else about charlie crist that's important to his legacy but has been forgotten. now that governor crist is no longer just that guy who got run out of the republican party, now that charlie crist is the speaking on behalf of president obama at the democratic convention, now that charlie crist is being mentioned as a top con tepider to replace the deeply-unpopular governor rick scott, get his old job back. maybe even as a democrat. now that all that is going on in charlie crist's afterlife, another
marco rubio was asked about the age of the planet in a recent interview, he dodged it saying, i'm not a scientist, man. now televangelist pat robertson of all people is weighing in, but not in a way you might expect. we're going to have pat robertson back. pat robertson saying the earth is very, very old. we should believe the artifacts and the paleontology. >>> finally, a real about-face >>> finally, a real about-face for the guy who had the romney campaign logo tattooed on his face before the election in exchange for a $5,000 payment. when romney lost, he said he was keeping the tattoo anyway. you're going to lose your children and i believe in telling them the way it was. then he caught wind of romney saying the president won the re-election by giving gifts to minority voters. now he says, quote, it stands not only for a losing campaign but for a sore loser. there's no dignity in blaming somebody else for buying votes and paying off people. i can't get behind that or stay behind that. well, a tattoo removal chain offered to remove the tattoo for free, and hartsburg is taking
to 2016, you're talking about some pretty interesting young dynamic people like marco rubio and rand paul and maybe scott walker. these are all political leaders in the republican party that weren't there when mitt romney and john mccain before him got into the queue and said, hey, it's my turn to run for president. >> all right. from freedom works, i know you're doing a big conference this week. we'll be checking in with you again. thanks for coming on this morning. >> thanks, chuck. >>> developing now the supreme court took no action today on the pending gay marriage cases. justice correspondent pete williams is live for us at the supreme court. this is now two weeks in a row, pete, that we thought we would get an answer to them about how they would plan on taking up this question of gay marriage. >> right. two case, the defense of marriage act and proposition 8 from california. nothing on the orders list today. so we'll find out later today whether the court is going to take it up again at its closed door conference on this friday. so my guess is this friday will be the next day we'll
to both of you. if i can start with you,ç jonathan, paul ryan and marco rubio spoke to a group of conservatives last night. they talked about helping the poor get into the middle class. in fact, i think we have a shot of paul ryan helping the poor. yes, there he is, in a soup kitchen during a campaign photo op. as we know, it was all just talk. when are we going to start hearing substance from these men or any republicans, for that matter? >> paul ryan would say he's been talking substance for a long time on these issues. it's just that we don't like what he's saying. we don't like his prescriptions for how he would help the poor. personally, i think paul ryan -- >> how does it help the poor by stripping meals on wheels, remove pell grants, how does that help the poor? >> that's a question for congressman ryan. i'm telling you from his mindset, his perspective, one way to help people and the economy is to ensure the country is on sound financial fiscal footing. the way he wants to go about it would devastate the very people he says he wants to help reach the middle class and ac
in 2016, doug? >> absolutely not. with marco rubio, i think going to terry branstead's birthday party in the caucus in iowa, i think the senator-- given the financial and political, organizational challenges involved it's almost imperative, dana, if you run, you begin this soon. >> and maybe start before four years out having to run for other offices and peggy, what goes through somebody's mind? what is the process that you think about, wow, you really could be president. that's a big leap and how, what's the process that you go through individually and then maybe with your family? >> well, yes, it's a big imaginatively-- to imagine yourself as president, i think the first thing you have to do right about now or even before now is think, do i have the right stuff? can i do this? do my spouse and my children, are they, a, people who, who can accept this and tolerate this and b, could they really accept it and tolerate it, meaning can they do what they think they can? it's such a grueling thing to run for president, you have to talk to yourself in a way about can i take constant media s
's interesting that tonight these speeches, and i think marco rubio is giving one, too, the kemp foundation. some of us are hold enough to remember jack kemp who was a republican who i think sincerely believed that some conservative ideas, in terms of homeownership and other things, could help african-american and low income community and he went out there, he talked to that crowd and he had -- yet there was a real authenticity -- >> it's better for americans if they have conservative ideas. these aren't just those ideas. >> yeah, i think cutting medicaid and cutting pell grants and school lunches is not what jack kemp was about. so paul ryan, just by -- it's interesting he said, i gave a speech, i gave a speech. you have to more than give speeches. >> i think you're right. and i do remember reading about jack kemp. david jashgs mal, thank you for being on the show tonight. >> sure thing. >>> coming up, they did everything to stop her. but here comes elizabeth warren. the big news is next. >> very proud night for myself and my family and my staff and my friends. i received a kennedy center honor.
congressman paul ryan senator marco rubio attended a dinner honoring the late anti-tax supply sider jack kemp. ryan distanced himself at that dinner from mitt romney's now notorious 47% remarks. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we need need to speak to the aspirations -- [ applause ] we must speak to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> jennifer: wonder why he wasn't telling romney that on the campaign. anyway romney and rubio then were up there joking that they're going to be seeing a lot of each other on the 2016 iowa, new hampshire, south carolina dinner circuit. so, of course, for the latest on the republicans quixotic branding campaign, we're going to turn to christine pelosi, chair of the women's caucus in her fabulous pink blazer. her political analysis can be found on politico's arena section. what do you think? do you think democrats would like a shot at running against ryan agai
billion dollars among friends? anyway, last month republican senator marco rubio punted on the question of how old the earth is, calling it a great mystery. it's not a mystery it's what the potential presidential candidate for 2016 was playing to the large number of evangelicals who believe in the literal truth of the bible. fast forward to yesterday when rubio was given a retake on that pop question by politico's mike all allen. >> there is no scientific debate on the age of the earth. it's established pretty definitively. at least 4.5 billion years old. i was referring to a these logical debate, which is a pretty healthy debate. >> rubio went on to say americans should teach children science but they also have the right to teach them religion. that's interesting. senator, you can't teach religion in public schools. by the way, think about it, what religion would you teach in public schools? would you want to decide that? this is america. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day after day..
's a few million years between friends? anyway, last month republican senator marco rubio punted on the question of how old the earth is, calling it a great mystery. potential presidential candidate for 2016 was playing to the large number of evangelicals who believe in the literal truth of the bible. fast forward to today where rubio was given a retake on that pop question by politico's michael len. >> there is no scientific debate on the age of the earth. it's established pretty definitively. at least 4.5 billion years old. i was referring to a theological debate, which is a pretty healthy debate. >> rubio went on to say americans should teach children science but they also have the right to teach them religion. that's interesting. senator, you can't teach religion in public schools. by the way, think about it, what religion would you teach in public schools? we'll be right back. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a
. florida senator marco rubio and congressman paul ryan of wisconsin appearing together last night at the jack kemp foundation awards dinner washington. listen to mitt romney's former running mate softening the rhetoric. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that track. we must speaks to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> senator rubio weighing in on the fiscal cliff debate and the idea of raising tax rates for the wealthy saying we need to make poor people richer, not rich people poorer. soledad. >> that's the kind of thinking that will get you votes, right? >> all right. thanks, zoraida. >> new york city police could be close to charging a suspect in that fatal subway push. they say a man is now being questioned and has implicated himself in this case. a front page "new york post" photo has become the source of a lot of controversy. it shows the victim desperately trying to climb up from the tracks as the train approaches. this morning we're hearing that the photog
. >> reporter: all kidding aside, paul ryan and marco rubio already appear to be hitting on themes that seem to distance themselves from mitt romney's toxic comments on people who receive government assistance. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is, that the american people have changed. too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people want what my parents had, a chance. >> reporter: republican strategists say their candidacies could help hit the gop reset button and give hillary clinton a serious challenge. >> does she scare republicans? >> i think she energizes republicans. what we're seeing right now are some very positive numbers for hillary clinton now. she's been out of the political fray for four years. when she becomes a politician again, if she goes into the political fray, into that ring, the gloves are off and the bell is ringing. >> unlike her last run in 20078 whi
tonight at an event featuring two ricing stars of the republican party. florida senator marco rubio and wisconsin congressman paul ryan will layout their vision -gs for the futurvisions for the future of the g.o.p. as another group of proimmigration conservatives are taking to capitol hill today to make their case for reforms that they believe would help grow the republican voter base. will any of this reach key republicans? joining us for a fair & balanced debate, simon rosenberg, a former clinton campaign adviser and president and founder of ndn, just for clarity, a democrat. and the former chairman of the republican party of virginia. kate, does the republican party mead to change its position on immigration? >> well, does it darn dash no it needs to actually star, it needs to talk bim congratulations. strstrategic decisions were made to stay away from the issues that affected these democrat i cans that the republicans did terrible with. the democrats define you on these positions, then as anti-immigration or as the president defined the republicans as the enemy of latino, he act
american. >> reporter: in addition to paul ryan, marco rubio appeared in that same washington event. both are thinking about a possible run for the presidency in 2016. rubio said republicans also have to reshape their message to middle class americans and those who want to enter the middle class. >> major garrett, thank you. >>> officials say another crisis is looming, but it's physical not fiscal. flu season is off to an early and strong start. the south is already hard hit by this year's strain. three school systems in tennessee have closed the rest of the week because so many students and teachers are sick. with us now, past president of the national foundation for infectious diseases. doctor, good morning. >> good morning. >> it's early, it's serious and it's caused by a virus that causes more serious illness. so it's not too late to get vaccinated. vaccine is our best prevention of influenza. we want to prevent pneumonia, hospitalization and, of course, deaths. >> how effective do you think this year's vaccine is? >> at the moment we know from analyzing the viruses we've already reco
. and both of them are trying to do personal makeovers and makeovers for the party. marco rubio who i think is in a tier in his own, so far ahead of anybody else if he decides to run, he's worried about just being the hispanic candidate. so he's going to start adding substantive accomplishments to his record. he has a two-year plan between now and 2014, november of 2014 to try to notch some specific accomplishments on immigration and on the economic front. so if and when he does run for president, he's not just the great communicator in the eyes of republicans, but somebody that has substantive accomplishments. for paul ryan, he doesn't want to be the austerity guy. so he too is looking at poverty, looking at immigration, and other issues to broaden his own portfolio. we have a great nugget in the piece about how in the campaign he wanted to go in inner cities, talk about poverty, and he got slapped back by the romney folks who said there's no constituency, there's no votes, we're not focusing on those issues. >> what's the next act for paul ryan coming off a losing vice presidential bid? w
speak, how do you avoid being the hispanic candidate this? >> my name is marco rubio and i come from where i come from and proud. it influences my public policy in a positive way. doesn't make me better than anyone else or more qualified. makes me who i am and i will continue to do that, not for an ethnic purpose but for a policy purpose. it informs me and allows me to relate and apply public policy. why do i care about programs in student loans, because i had them. i think that's a good thing in public policy and that's why we have a representative republic. >> lois has a question. >> senator, you have said, i have heard you say that the latino community is quite conservative, social issues, fiscally as is the african-american community. both communities rejected your party. beyond immigration reform, you know, what kind of policies should the party put forth? it's not just the message or rhetoric that could track this demographic back, like for instance, there was a lot of talk during the campaign like the children of immigrants being able to go to school. what else can they offer
treat next. playbook breakfast, next wednesday, a week from today. we have bob woodward and marco rubio. thank you for a great conversation. >> thank you. >> thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> and tonight on c-span, we will bring you several more events looking at those potential tax hikes and budget cuts of the fiscal cliff and what may need to happen for a deal to be reached between the white house and congressional leaders. we'll bring you remarks from president obama, republican leadership and a democratic caucus briefing with comments from speaker boehner, house democratic caucus chairman john larson and others, all that have beginning at 8:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. and in case you missed any of our coverage today or other days of our fiscal cliff discussions and debates, your best resource for that is c-span.org. you can see a link right there to the program we just showed with you grover norquist and all of our coverage today. plus a link to our fiscal cliff website right there on th
. we have bob woodward and marco rubio. thank you for a great conversation. >> thank you. >> thank you. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> the lessons of the 1990 federal budget deal. john boehner, house democrats, and president obama talk about the fiscal cliff. several live events to tell you about tomorrow morning. a report on british media practices that included among other things, phone hacking of people of in the new spirit that is on c-span 2. on c-span 3, the senate environment and public works committee will hear about the impact of hurricane sandy. coming up, former congressional leaders talk about what congress learn from the 1990 agreement. from the bipartisan policy center, this is under two hours. >> ok. welcome. i am the director of public administration program. i want to welcome you to the session, which we are calling looking back to move a forward. this is co-sponsored by george mason university and the bipartisan policy center. it is our pleasure to put this on and to recognize with al
boehner. at the museum today, florida senator marco rubio sat down with michaelen of "politico." he answered questions about the fiscal cliff. republican outreach to hispanic voters and a potential campaign for president. this is 45 minutes. [applause] >> thank you very much. you had a late night. >> not really. >> is bob still here? what would you like to ask senator rubio? [laughter] >> are you still doing this? >> ask him a real question. this is a great chance. >> last night you talked about a new direction for the republican party. and one of the things that you talked about is education. and how to make higher education cheaper, how to reform pell grants. what will be the number one thing that you would do, that you can do as a freshman minority senator? >> well, i don't think there is a number one thing. i think there's a number of number one things, you have to do them all. the biggest obstacle we face as a 21st century doesn't look like a 20th century student. it's not just an 18-year-old that graduated high school. it still continues to be a significant part of the folks t
foundation dinner where senator rubio was receiving a leadership award paul ryan won last year. >> marco is joining an elite group of past rescipients of th reward. i'll see you at the reunion dinner. >> paul, thank you for your invitation for lunch in iowa and new hampshire. but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> joe klein, the games apparently have begun. >> only for those of us -- >> 2016 will be a lot more fun than 2012 was. and you know, up until a few weeks ago, i had the democratic ticket set. it would be a hillary clinton/david petraeus ticket. but i think that's kind of -- you know. >> we have to rewrite half of it. >> yes, well, although i mean -- we don't even need to go there. >> the hillary, what i've heard, is that the people who are in the financial end of hillary's campaign have been alerted that they got planning to do. some of them are also andrew cuomo fund-raisers and they are alert that there is planning they need to do. some of them are pretty conflicted. that's the best that i have on what she's thinking. >> i've talk to some of
or andrew cuomo, not saying these people are running, but jeb bush, marco rubio, pick your candidate -- it is not about could we win iowa, could we build a grass-roots campaign? what is your platform? not saying this candidates will not have to do that, but if you do not have a super pac game that is huge you are not going to be able to win your party nomination. that is it really disturbing trend. >> in any given competitive congressional campaign in the country the candidate committee, the actual campaign of the guy running for office or the woman running for office, has the smallest voice in the race with regard to the outside groups. it is increasingly true in senate races. it is increasingly true even in the presidential race. a brief follow up to that -- to talk about the senate and congressional and presidential races. is this kind of technique that was owned and endorsed by the supreme court and so on in this election, presidential election, going to have any effect on issue campaigns as well? are we going to find super pac's that will influence the outcome of legislation or
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